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A Ginger Magician

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I always love reading people’s obscure TV memories. Here’s one posted to Bluesky recently by Jeff Billington; unlike some people who are convinced their memories are always correct, he willingly admits it might be bollocks.

“Something I insist happened but may have dreamt:

BBC2, mid 90s, snooker, Steve Davis playing, match is overrunning.

Between frames, host states that scheduled Red Dwarf will be shown after the match.

Return to commentator (Ted Lowe?) who says ‘…from the Red Dwarf to the Ginger Magician…’

The question is: can I – and a gang of fellow investigators – prove whether this happened or not, from the comfort of our own living room? Let’s find out.

STEP #1: Ray Newman draws the post to my attention.

STEP #2: Eddie Robson points out that if this happened, it must have been with a repeat, as to his knowledge no first-run episode of Red Dwarf was delayed by snooker. (Which is a very reasonable supposition – I’ve hung around Dwarf fandom long enough to know it would be a well-known incident if so.)

STEP #3: Justin Lewis suggests a date: 9th February 1997. This was the night of the Masters final, followed by Red Dwarf VII, where each new episode on Friday had a Sunday repeat. BBC Genome lists that repeat time as 10:30pm, as per the Radio Times, although the overrunning snooker would have pushed that later.

STEP #4: Eddie Robson also points out that Steve Davis was actually in the final, matching Jeff Billington’s memory.

STEP #5: I finally get involved, and find the whole of the 1997 final is sitting on YouTube. I initially suggest Part Two as a starting point…

STEP #6: …but Justin Lewis notes that Part Two is from the afternoon coverage, not the evening, and suggests that Part Five would be most likely.

STEP #7: I presume at that point we were all desperately scanning the videos, trying to find the moment. I know I was. It therefore seems appropriate that Jeff Billington himself found it first. It is indeed in Part Five; to be exact, at 11:40.

I’m even going to break my rule, and embed a video here which was uploaded in the wrong aspect ratio:

DAVID VINE: Well as promised, we’re staying with this gripping Masters final right to the very end. Those of you waiting for the Red Dwarf will be following this final.
DENNIS TAYLOR: Well, from a Red Dwarf to a Ginger Magician here at the table…

So it was Dennis Taylor, not Ted Lowe, but otherwise, Jeff’s memory was pretty much spot on. And while you can make fun of David Vine’s “the” Red Dwarf, hey, there was precedent.

Total time from Jeff’s post to the solution: three hours and five minutes. And if we only count when people truly started poking at it, 37 minutes.

Which just leads me to contemplate: we complain, correctly, about how dreadful the world can be in 2026, in both large ways and small. But sometimes it’s worth sitting back and thinking that for years, researching this would have been virtually impossible. But with a combination of social media, YouTube, and BBC Genome, a long-standing mystery was cracked in less then an hour.

Modern life isn’t always rubbish.

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Closing the Gap

TV Comedy

On the 21st March 1988, Danny John-Jules appeared as The Cat in the Red Dwarf episode “Me2“, the final episode of Series 1.

On the 6th September 1988, Danny John-Jules appeared as The Cat in the Red Dwarf episode “Kryten”, the first episode of Series 2.

But between those dates, on the 30th May 1988, Danny John-Jules appeared as The Cat in something altogether different: a show called Babylon 2, part of the BBC’s brand new youth strand DEF II.

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The Outer Reaches of Human Imagination

TV Comedy / TV Presentation

Disclaimer: this is a personal post, and does not represent the views of the BBC.

What do most people use YouTube for? Surely, EVERYBODY uses it for the exact reason I do: to watch lots of lovely old BBC2 continuity from 1992. Such as the below video, uploaded by Andrew Wiseman. The whole thing is well worth watching; I particularly like the trail for The Addams Family. Or perhaps I just like the idea of TV channels showing The Addams Family.

But the interesting part of this video for our purposes today is right at the beginning: it starts with the original network continuity into the Red Dwarf episode “Holoship”, broadcast on the 20th February 1992. Sadly, the recording is not quite complete – some words are missing at the front – but it’s mostly there. Your announcer is Halyna Kozak.

“…Red Dwarf return for another tour of duty around the outer regions of human imagination, proving that love can even conquer uncharted space.”

A lovely announcement, for one of the most romantic episodes Red Dwarf ever did.

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A Specialist

TV Comedy

My recent four-part analysis of Mary was one of the hardest things I’ve ever written for Dirty Feed. When I’m writing stupid shit about The Young Ones, I have a base level of knowledge about the show in my head. With Mary, I was writing virtually from scratch, and that’s before you even get into disentangling fact and fiction surrounding the show.

But truth be told, I could have easily written ten articles about poor, maligned Mary. There’s simply so much to say about it, and a huge amount of contemporary newspaper reporting. I wrote a version of the first article which was almost twice as long, with twice as many review quotes. But I did want at least some readers to get to the end of the article without giving up.

Which means there’s shitloads of stuff I left out of those pieces. So let’s take one more trip back to the blog Tune in Tonight!, which has this to say about the whole notion of variety:

“If you’ve been reading this blog for a while you’ll know there’s been a whole month dedicated to variety shows, a genre that peaked in the 1960s, and died a hard, ugly, unlamented death by the early 80s. Variety shows existed for one purpose–to prove that the star (or stars, if you were Donny and Marie Osmond) was multi-talented. They weren’t just actors, they were great singers! They could dance! They could do slapstick comedy! They could grimace their way through scripted banter with a guest star they never met until three minutes before taping began!

The trouble was, of course, that they couldn’t do all those things. Sometimes it was so apparent they couldn’t do all those things that it made watching the show an endurance test, a challenge to see how much secondhand embarrassment one could take before switching over to a soothing, more entertaining test pattern. Mary Tyler Moore actually comes pretty close, but it still doesn’t save 1978’s Mary, which lasted a regrettable three episodes, from the stink of desperation.”

Which I think might be one of the most cynical things I’ve ever read. I do understand that it’s an over-exaggeration to make the point; I’m just not sure I agree with the point. I’m not being deliberately difficult, but I think the point of variety was to entertain people, wasn’t it? Which it managed, for decades. But there is something here about the way television was heading, for good or for ill.

Let’s take a look at one example in particular. Letterman: The Last Giant of Late Night (Harper, 2017) by Jason Zinoman, has some material about Letterman’s appearances in Mary, including a routine dissecting a magic trick which I haven’t seen mentioned anywhere else. But the anecdote about his guest appearance on Mork & Mindy is, if anything, even more interesting:

“If Mary taught him that he couldn’t sing or dance, his cameo role on Mork & Mindy was a lesson in the dangers of acting. Letterman was cast as an obnoxious motivational speaker who kept telling his followers to sit down and shut up, and bragged about his Rolls-Royce. The casting agent probably thought that Letterman’s stage persona would make him a natural for this superior jerk. But in a villain role that required him to commit, he looked as uncomfortable as he did in a chorus line.

In an era of entertainers who did a little bit of everything—singing, dancing, and a few jokes — Letterman was a specialist. And while his early experiences were failures, they helped him understand his limitations. Wil Shriner, a fellow stand-up comic and friend, recalled how miserable he was on the drive to the studio to shoot Mork & Mindy. On the way home, Letterman said, ‘I will never do that again.’”

This was the episode “Mork Goes Erk”, broadcast on ABC on the 8th February 1979. Letterman is only in one scene, half of which I’ve embedded below.1

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  1. If you want the other half, buy the DVD. You can get every single episode for under £30 now. 

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There’s Something About “Mary”, Part Four

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Part OnePart TwoPart ThreePart Four

Last time, I asked a simple question: Why is it that Mary attracts so much negative comment today, with people falling over themselves to slag it off, when I’ve rather enjoyed what I’ve seen of it so far? Do I simply have terrible taste in television?

That is a distinct possibility. But I also think there’s a few deeper things going on here.

Vince Keenan, in this piece about Mary, makes a very good point about modern attitudes towards the show. He correctly notes that recent documentary Being Mary Tyler Moore does not cover Mary.. and also that it was far from a surprise that it goes absolutely nowhere near it. Why?

“…because the Mary/The Mary Tyler Moore Hour debacle is perceived not only as a failure, but the wrong kind of failure. One seen as a dead end. But every show business narrative needs the right kind of failure, an early misstep that opens doors and creates second acts.”

He goes on to suggest that the “right” kind of failure with Mary Tyler Moore was her disastrous 1966 stage musical Breakfast at Tiffany’s, and her subsequent middling films, which ended up leading to her renaissance on television. I think Vince is exactly right that this is why Being Mary Tyler Moore didn’t cover Mary: because it essentially lead to nothing, at least when it came to Mary herself.

But I think we can take this a step further. Because Mary is the “wrong” kind of failure, it also means that people find the show difficult to judge on its own merits. Something that was pulled after three weeks because it didn’t get the ratings is just “obviously” a poor show. The juggernaut of received opinion rolls on, the narrative takes over, and before you know it, nobody’s really analysing the show properly, they’re just trading insults about it.

Vince himself doesn’t seem immune to this: in a paragraph explaining why he thinks the show is bad, he simply states “Moore opens with Loudon Wainwright III’s ‘Dead Skunk.'”1 As though this is a self-evidently terrible thing, with no justification needed. Now I personally think the segment is hilarious, but that’s a judgement call; what I find interesting is that multiple people who have looked back at Mary just don’t seem to understand the gag. For the avoidance of doubt: America’s Sweetheart™ opened a show by singing about a dead skunk, instead of about something nice. The inappropriateness was the joke.

All this already seems to have put up a barrier when it comes to how to interpreting Mary. But it’s compounded by something else: numerous people who worked on the show have often had negative things to say about it. Vince quotes Swoozie Kurtz calling Mary’s dancing “bossa-nova-meets-yeast-infection”, which is extremely amusing, albeit unfair. But the most obvious and famous criticism comes from Michael Keaton and David Letterman, and particularly with Letterman’s agony at doing the dance numbers.

Vince goes on to mention the following segment from Letterman which aired on the 28th April 2015, featuring Keaton as guest.

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  1. Vince doesn’t identify this show as unaired, but he does correctly state that it’s an incomplete edit, which is more than many people bother to do. 

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There’s Something About “Mary”, Part Three

TV Comedy

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Previously, we talked about the history of Mary Tyler Moore’s 1978 variety series Mary, and analysed a half-finished episode hanging around online which was never transmitted. You would think that the story surrounding this show is already complicated enough, and it couldn’t get any more confusing.

Allow me to dissuade you of that notion.

There is one more video of material which originated from Mary on YouTube. This one is named “‘Mary’ Episode (unaired?) – 1978”. I won’t keep you in suspense; comparing the contents of this video with what was billed in contemporary newspapers, I can confirm that it was indeed unaired.1

Unlike the previous unaired episode, this isn’t an unedited studio tape, but looks to be – mainly – completed. (I’ll be coming back to the “mainly” qualifier.) And more than that: unlike the other unaired material, we can actually come up with the date when this episode was supposed to have been broadcast: the 15th October 1978. A show which was supposed to air fourth in the run, and then was cancelled before transmission.

We don’t have to rely on guesswork when it comes to this. Plenty of contemporary newspaper coverage proves it beyond doubt. For instance, Cecil Smith reported the following in The Los Angeles Times on the 16th October:

“I wonder if CBS didn’t blow the whistle too early on “Mary,” which the network cancelled late last week. […] The show you didn’t see Sunday night was one of the brightest hours of the year. […]

I had dropped by the set of “Mary” to watch the show last month. At the time, they were working on their ninth show—they did 11. Unlike some of my colleagues, I was not too taken with the opening show on “Mary” — I thought it rather self-conscious and self-serving, despite the Ed Asner Dancers. They found another show for me to see – the Oct. 15 edition.

There were wonderful things in it. Mary revisited the set of the old Mary Tyler Moore Show, the newsroom of WJZ-TV in Minneapolis, where, as Mary Richards, she became a national institution. It seems the “atmosphere” – the extras who worked in the background while Mary, Lou, Murray and Ted occupied center stage – had never been told the series had ended. They were still at their desks, covered with cobwebs.

(“When I stepped on that set,” Mary told me later, “that was catch-in-the-throat time. There were tears.”)

In another marvellously funny sequence, she played Phyllis Marlowe, who had taken the place of her brother Philip, the private eye. The scene was choreographed hilariously to a narrator doing Raymond Chandler—it was beautiful parody down to the last elaborate metaphor.

And there was a number with Dick Shawn in which he languorously sang “Send in the Clowns” while a ballet of clowns came in and threw pies at him, tore his clothes off and generally did what clowns do.”

Yet again, this is an example of somebody who enjoyed Mary, despite most people treating it these days as something which was “obviously” terrible. And this is someone who hadn’t blindly loved the show – they disliked the first episode, and then were won round, albeit by (clearly flagged) unbroadcast material. I do realise I keep banging this drum, but it really is important to acknowledge that the way the show is usually talked about these days wasn’t a uniform opinion back in 1978, despite the poor audience figures.

Anyway, hopefully my main point is clear: every single sketch mentioned in Cecil Smith’s piece is in the video embedded at the top of this article. So case closed: this video really does contain the episode which was meant to air on the 15th October.

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  1. The Saturday Night Fever sketch contained within was mentioned by Mary Tyler Moore in pre-show interviews, and also briefly featured in CBS fall promos. While I still maintain that when discussing the sketch as a whole you need to flag it as unbroadcast, you can put together a credible argument that Mary must have been pleased with how it turned out. 

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There’s Something About “Mary”, Part Two

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Last time, I left you all with something of a poser. Clips from three episodes of Mary are sitting on YouTube in various forms. Are these the same three episodes which were broadcast back in 1978?

Certainly, most people seem to have either assumed that they are, or are simply uninterested in whether they are or not. Let’s take a look again at the YouTube video “Why Mary Tyler Moore’s 1978 “Mary” Bombed Big Time”:

The narration certainly leaves us in no doubt about what they think about poor Mary:

“From what I saw, there were two things which caused this programme to nosedive and crash so quickly. The writing was bad. At times, really bad.”

We then get a clip of Mary talking to the studio audience: “Let’s talk about Canada!”. Followed inevitably by a song about Canada. Neither works very well in clip form, I will admit, although I could make the best show in the world look bad by slagging it off and then throwing in a few clips out-of-context.

We are then told:

“So much of the comedy I saw felt forced, and simply wasn’t funny.”

Followed by part of an unidentified sketch featuring Mary, Swoosie, and Judith sitting on a sofa:

SWOOSIE KURTZ: Without another person.
JUDITH KAHAN: Just you.
SWOOSIE KURTZ: Solo.
JUDITH KAHAN: Uno.
SWOOSIE KURTZ: Solitary.
JUDITH KAHAN: Like mouldy cheese.

If anything, there is even less context given to this clip, so it’s simply impossible to judge it fairly. So let’s do the donkeywork ourselves. Where do these clips come from?

The answer: another video on YouTube, worryingly titled “‘Mary’ unknown episode 1978”.

The above video includes both the Canada material, and the sketch with Judith and Swoosie on the sofa, called “Not A Married Woman”. I think all the material comes across much better when watched in context. But that’s not really the point.

Because something else immediately becomes clear while watching this video: we’re not looking at a finished programme here. This is a studio tape, featuring raw footage of a studio audience session for the programme, including retakes. It also isn’t even complete – it ends halfway through a sketch. And needless to say, the completed programme isn’t available anywhere else online.

So our question is now slightly different: does this studio tape represent something which became a finished programme which transmitted on CBS in 1978?

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Electrocution Lessons

TV Comedy

The problem with finally getting round to watching loads of US sitcoms over the past year or so is that I immediately want to turn Dirty Feed into a fan site for each of them. Sadly, I have zero time to do this. In a parallel universe, somebody very rich is paying me to spend all my time writing stupid shit about All in the Family, rather than worry about World Cup weather delays.

So you’ll have to wait a few decades for my in-depth piece on why I’ve recently fallen in love with Married… with Children. Suffice to say that when you’re watching a show as measured and responsible as All in the Family, it’s a lovely contrast to also watch a programme which is simply interested as being irresponsible and gleefully unpleasant as possible.1

It’s also a show which is far better made and more thoughtful than it’s often given credit for. Take a look at the following clip from Season 5 episode “Do Ya Think I’m Sexy”, transmitted by Fox on the 18th November 1990. On the page, it’s a very standard gag: Bud gets an electric shock while mending the doorbell, because Kelly hasn’t turned off the electricity. Cue a Looney Tunes moment with a smoking Bud.

Now, there’s a very obvious way to shoot this scene if you’re making an audience sitcom: record the part with Bud going to fix the doorbell in front of the audience, and then play in a pre-recorded shot of him after being electrocuted. If the production was feeling brave, they could shoot his appearance after being electrocuted in front of the audience, with a recording break in-between to add the make-up and smoke effects to David Faustino.

Married… with Children does neither of these things. It decides the funniest thing is to do it all in one shot, in front of the audience. So that’s what they do. The result is a pure piece of stagecraft magic, and turns a standard gag on the page into something wonderful.

I wonder how many people were standing just outside the door, ready to do David’s hair, make-up, and to set off the smoke effects.2 Note also how brilliantly David rides the laugh when he reappears; one of the best things about Married… with Children is seeing him develop his comic timing over the first few years of the show. Christina Applegate’s corpsing is the icing on the cake.

This scene is everything I love about television. A production going out of its way to do something difficult; not to draw attention to itself, not to win awards, but just because it’s the funniest way to do something. A cut would hurt the rhythm of the scene – and at least subconsciously make it feel like cheat. And of course, doing it live in one take also vastly improves the studio audience reaction.

It’s a commitment to comedy which is stamped over every frame of Married… with Children. It is singularly interested in getting you to laugh as hard and as often as possible, and will do anything to get you there. And that’s why, no matter how unpleasant the show is being at any given moment, it’s also so goddamn lovable.


  1. This is not an idle comparison; both shows share a lineage, and not just in terms of being American videotaped audience sitcoms, a trend which started with All in the Family. No, there is an overt connection: co-creator of Married… with Children Michael G. Moye used to write for the Lear television factory, including All in the Family spin-off The Jeffersons

  2. It is notable that David never turns his back to the camera throughout the entire scene, so he was clearly already wearing the smoke mechanism from the beginning in order to save time. 

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There’s Something About “Mary”, Part One

TV Comedy

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On the 24th September 1978, a brand new Mary Tyler Moore variety series premiered on CBS. Simply titled Mary1, there was a full season order in place; many reports at the time suggested at least 22 shows, with an option for two more.

After three shows aired, the show was pulled from the airwaves for good.

This article is partly the tale of what happened to poor Mary. But more importantly: it’s also about the pitfalls of judging a series nearly five decades later, when the detritus surrounding a show can be extremely difficult to interpret correctly.

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There was an obvious format which Mary could have gone for: something akin to How to Survive the 70s from seven months earlier. Numerous guest stars, perhaps a different, fairly loose topic every week, job done. Instead, Mary seemed to go out of its way to make life difficult for itself.

Guest stars were mainly eschewed, aside from a brief appearance by Carl Reiner in the opening episode. Instead, they went for a repertory cast, some quite well known, others at the start of their career: James Hampton, Swoosie Kurtz, David Letterman, Michael Keaton, Judy Kahan, and – the most famous of the gang at the time – Dick Shawn. This, at least, had some precedence: surrounding Mary with a solid team was one of the things which made The Mary Tyler Moore Show such a success.

Mary herself described the series as the following at the time, which was widely quoted in the press:

“The show will be made up primarily of sketches which hopefully display wit and grown-up comedy. There will also be some music and dancing but most of the numbers will grown out of the preceding sketch. For instance, a disco sketch evolves into a disco number. It’s a new form for me and I just love it.”

Some clips from the first episode are on YouTube. Sadly, as it’s not the full show, it doesn’t really give a full sense of proceedings; oddly enough, it seems determined not to let us see much of the actual singing or dancing. But it does at least give some kind of idea of the kind of programme Mary was.

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  1. This is not Mary’s 1985 sitcom, also called Mary

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“A Failed Dancer”

TV Comedy

MARY RICHARDS: I think you had a dream. You dreamed that you started from nowhere, and you made it all the way to the top. Became rich, successful in every way, loved… and recently, you’ve begun to become aware that time is slipping away, and your life has turned out a little differently from the dream. In fact, compared to the dream, you think your life isn’t all that terrific. And it’s begun to bother you.

TED BAXTER: That’s amazing, Mary. How did you know that was my problem?

MARY RICHARDS: Ted, that’s everybody’s problem. I had a dream once. I dreamed of becoming a ballerina. Took so many classes, I practiced so hard. In the hopes one day I’d dance with the finest ballet company, and I’d win the cheers of audiences all over the world.

TED BAXTER: So you wanted to be a real famous dancer. And you wound up as the producer of a local news show.

MARY RICHARDS: That’s right.

TED BAXTER: Boy, you really blew it.

The Mary Tyler Moore Show, “Hail the Conquering Gordy”,
CBS TX: 5th February 1977

“I think I’ll always consider myself a failed dancer, not a successful actress.”

– Mary Tyler Moore, The Los Angeles Times, 20th December 1981

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